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MS. PERINO: Because we follow the law.
Q: --if you don't know what was in the other opinions, the classified opinions?
MS. PERINO: Because all of the opinions and all of the discussions, everything has to be within the law and the policy, and the policy of the United States is that we don't torture.
Q: Well, we'd like to believe that, but there's no way to assure us, is there?
MS. PERINO: I think to a certain extent, yes, and that's why we have, for example, that December 4 2004 opinion that lays out broadly how we interpret the law.
Q: Taking your word for it, though, is not true—
MS. PERINO: Well, I think that the American people can understand—I believe that the American people can understand why there are certain pieces of information and tools that we use in the global war on terror that remain classified in order to protect them—
Q: Why do you believe that?
MS. PERINO: --and I believe they have every right to know that.
Q: Why do you believe they are not disgraced and shamed when torture is attached to our name?
MS. PERINO: Helen, the United States policy is not to torture, and we do not.
Q: I hear what you're saying, the policy. But what do we really do—
MS. PERINO: The American people have every right to be very proud of what we've done, and we have not had another terrorist attack on this country. And they should be glad of that, as well.
Q: So the end justifies the means.
MS. PERINO: Our end is that we don't—our means are that we don't torture, and the end result is that we've not had a terrorist attack.